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I'd record with as many mics as you have inputs. After the session you can decide what tracks to throw away. For some types of music it is best to use only overheads and kick mic as you have described. Other types of music require every drum to be mic'ed. Search the DUC. There have been countless posts from very knowlegeable people about mic'ing drums. Most of the Pros don't hang out in the Windows LE forum.

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good drum sounds require several things: 1. A well tuned kit. You can't shine sh*t. 2. A decent room. Just because it's a low ceiling basement doesn't mean it won't work, have faith and an open mind. 3. A good drummer. (see #1) 4. Proper mics/preamps. You have this comvered. Do not eq to get sounds, move mics, kit placement in the room, preamps,. tuning, etc. EQ is for mixing. Start with overheads. Get the best possible sound from the entire kit with one or two mics.(Ocktavias or the NTK) Experiment with placement, listening in MONO for phase issues, until you have the entire kit balanced. Now add the kick mic(D112) Now add a room mic. (NTK if you didn't use it for overhead) Place it at about chest height and 2/3 way across the room from the kit. Next, snare, a 57 will do fine. Place to get a balanced sound when blended with the previous mics without too much hat bleed. (don't worry about micing the hat, you'll have plenty in the properly placed overheads) I generally go for about 2" from the rim, pointing down about 20 degrees. From here you decide if you put the remaining 57's on the toms, or if you have enough with this. (This is all I typically use for any style music) As the previous poster recommended though, if you can, track the toms, and you can decise later if you really need them. Better to have and not need than need and not have. I'd recommend staying away from the limiters on the presonus. I find them ot be very detrimental to drum sounds. Also, don't think you're away from a click track jsut because you're tracking real drums, as the drummer may wish (or need) to play to one. Hope this is helpful.

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26.01.25 - 13:37:39
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hi, i'll just elaborate on a couple of things. place the 57's roughly 1" in towards the center of each drum and roughly 2" above the head pointed at the center of the drum. as where said, if the drums are properly tuned they will sound great with no muffling however the snare is sometimes a problem. i'm fond of those remo "o ring" things, well i forgot what they're called but they are a circle of drumhead material that's about an inch wide and sits on the top head and works beautifuly to get rid of unwanted overtones. i even use them on toms, with coated ambassador heads (which are very "ringy" without muffling) they sound awesome! i would mic every drum, you can get great sounds with fewer mics but after listening to both which i generally do whenever recording, i always prefer the sound of more mics. you shouldn't have any phase problems if you follow this general rule, the second (distant) mic picking up the source should be at least three times farther away from the source than the mic intended for that source. i haven't needed to mic the bottom of the snare but if you've got an extra mic then by all means go ahead and try it out but it isn't necessary to get a killer snare sound.

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