just to add another 2 cents I DO have a SONY player which VERY occasionally choked on layer breaks that had been forcibly removed by shrink or RB (agressive mode) the sure-fire solution I found was, IF the LB was left in the output of RB (used in the default non-agressive mode) and I still wanted to remove it: use the excellent pgcdemux to demux the audio, video, subtitles use the excellent muxman to reassemble/rebuild the DVD (subtitle colour palette will also have to be copied back from the original) alternatively, of course, you could pgcdemux, muxman the original source files BEFORE using RB (but you won't get help from jdobbs if you preprocess anything and there's a problem!)